ArgoUML support status
Hi, I experienced two big WTF behaviours with argouml today. Despite no precise information on website, i think argouml is now a dead project. I think our next internship will focus on testing modelisation tools and support by eugene. Starting with "modelio". Feel free to propose other "xmi" alternative to check. Regards. -- Éric Chatellier
On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 22:06:13 +0100 "Eric Chatellier" <chatellier@codelutin.com> wrote:
Hi,
I experienced two big WTF behaviours with argouml today.
Despite no precise information on website, i think argouml is now a dead project. It could be less dead if someone takes the lead of it?
I think our next internship will focus on testing modelisation tools and support by eugene. Or maintain back argoUML, could be a nice challenge for us to
Hum, not so helpful to just say WTF, in fact, help nobody :( Could you describe the problem could perharps save some time for us. maintain for once something out of our land. Just wondering... hoping one day we could be leader in something...
Starting with "modelio". Feel free to propose other "xmi" alternative to check.
Did we also give up the Yaml approach ? Should we always based your model on very complex xmi? I don't feel confident in this way. For me a simple text model should be quit enough for our needs. I don't see the point using some technologies such as xmi just to transform it in objectmodel. tony. -- Tony Chemit -------------------- tél: +33 (0) 2 40 50 29 28 http://www.codelutin.com email: chemit@codelutin.com twitter: https://twitter.com/tchemit
On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 01:42:30 +0100 Tony Chemit <chemit@codelutin.com> wrote:
On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 22:06:13 +0100 "Eric Chatellier" <chatellier@codelutin.com> wrote:
Hi,
I experienced two big WTF behaviours with argouml today.
Hum, not so helpful to just say WTF, in fact, help nobody :(
Could you describe the problem could perharps save some time for us.
Despite no precise information on website, i think argouml is now a dead project. It could be less dead if someone takes the lead of it?
I think our next internship will focus on testing modelisation tools and support by eugene. Or maintain back argoUML, could be a nice challenge for us to maintain for once something out of our land. Just wondering... hoping one day we could be leader in something...
Starting with "modelio". Feel free to propose other "xmi" alternative to check.
Did we also give up the Yaml approach ? Should we always based your model on very complex xmi? I don't feel confident in this way. For me a simple text model should be quit enough for our needs.
I don't see the point using some technologies such as xmi just to transform it in objectmodel.
I just have a look of generated xmi and it is strongly linked with emf even when you ask a simple OMG UML 2.1.1 export. Does it what we want ? I don't think so. Just to notice also that the project write a lots of files everywhere : ~/.eclise, ~/modelio, Perso, I don't feel happy using a such tool. Yet another question, with argoUML we could work directly on the .zargo file, here it is not possible, there is lots of small file; we need to do a xmi export (with 4 or 5 different formats). After how could we use this in a easy way ? - Creates a new modelio project, - Import the xmi file (reimport a xmi model will duplicates elements, so need each time a new project, bouuuh :( spare me) - Modify the model - Export the xmi file (don't mistake on the export format...) Clearly It look not very friendly doing this each time we need to modify a svn model. WDYT? -- Tony Chemit -------------------- tél: +33 (0) 2 40 50 29 28 http://www.codelutin.com email: chemit@codelutin.com twitter: https://twitter.com/tchemit
Le 04/02/2014 02:18, Tony Chemit a écrit :
I just have a look of generated xmi and it is strongly linked with emf even when you ask a simple OMG UML 2.1.1 export. Does it what we want ? I don't think so.
Just to notice also that the project write a lots of files everywhere : ~/.eclise, ~/modelio,
Perso, I don't feel happy using a such tool. I already reported this problem 4 month ago: http://forge.modelio.org/issues/146
Yet another question, with argoUML we could work directly on the .zargo file, here it is not possible, there is lots of small file; we need to do a xmi export (with 4 or 5 different formats).
After how could we use this in a easy way ?
- Creates a new modelio project, - Import the xmi file (reimport a xmi model will duplicates elements, so need each time a new project, bouuuh :( spare me) - Modify the model - Export the xmi file (don't mistake on the export format...)
Clearly It look not very friendly doing this each time we need to modify a svn model.
WDYT? Modelio was just a proposal.
So like I said, "feel to to propose other alternative". -- Éric Chatellier - www.codelutin.com - 02.40.50.29.28
Le 04/02/2014 01:42, Tony Chemit a écrit :
On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 22:06:13 +0100 "Eric Chatellier" <chatellier@codelutin.com> wrote:
Hi,
I experienced two big WTF behaviours with argouml today. Hum, not so helpful to just say WTF, in fact, help nobody :(
Could you describe the problem could perharps save some time for us. Have i existing class parameter invisible in ArgoUML UI. Or invisible relation. Can't move relation order, and a lot more...
Despite no precise information on website, i think argouml is now a dead project. It could be less dead if someone takes the lead of it? I think our next internship will focus on testing modelisation tools and support by eugene. Or maintain back argoUML, could be a nice challenge for us to maintain for once something out of our land. Just wondering... hoping one day we could be leader in something... This is a nice idea, but a lot a work. Can you handle it ?
-- Éric Chatellier - www.codelutin.com - 02.40.50.29.28
On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 18:48:26 +0100 Eric Chatellier <chatellier@codelutin.com> wrote:
Le 04/02/2014 01:42, Tony Chemit a écrit :
On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 22:06:13 +0100 "Eric Chatellier" <chatellier@codelutin.com> wrote:
Hi,
I experienced two big WTF behaviours with argouml today. Hum, not so helpful to just say WTF, in fact, help nobody :(
Could you describe the problem could perharps save some time for us. Have i existing class parameter invisible in ArgoUML UI. Or invisible relation. Can't move relation order, and a lot more...
Despite no precise information on website, i think argouml is now a dead project. It could be less dead if someone takes the lead of it? I think our next internship will focus on testing modelisation tools and support by eugene. Or maintain back argoUML, could be a nice challenge for us to maintain for once something out of our land. Just wondering... hoping one day we could be leader in something... This is a nice idea, but a lot a work. Can you handle it ? Yes I can lead something but not alone, would you enjoy to meet the team ?
-- Tony Chemit -------------------- tél: +33 (0) 2 40 50 29 28 http://www.codelutin.com email: chemit@codelutin.com twitter: https://twitter.com/tchemit
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